http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/pl....html

Screw the poor!!!

I expect good things...and I'm already salivating at the idea of more "performance" oriented versions. I do hate the wheels, and that blue though.

Yum... they also did very well in their class on the 24h ring.

Then they should develope/build a proper scirocco/corrado that is much more similiar to the last corrado.

Scirocco have always been all about being "prettier" versions of Golf.

Screw the poor!!!

I don't get it then. They both look like small sporty hatchbacks catering to the same market segment. The Scirocco cost less and looks better than the GTI. Why would someone buy the GTI then?

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no they don't . VW's are just about the best dang cars ever built

makes you wonder how these people get there jobs better yet....KEEP THEM!!!!

The whole concept worked before and probably will this time too.

The difference this time however, is that the new Scirocco is actually cheaper than GTI.

Screw the poor!!!

I think it has to do witht he fact that the MkV is being replaced with the cheaper MkVI. At that point the Scirocco will be the more expensive one. Still, the Scirocco seems like a much better buy.

DCCXXVI

Both do cater to the same market, but Vdubbers tend to have their favorites. I think they can co exist in the U.S. market by making the New Scirocco more exclusive than the GTI (and more expensive too) ie put it in the slot that is vacated by the R32 every 4 years.

Modified by gizmopop at 9:08 PM 6-19-2008

the gti was a boxy 2-door hatch while the scirocco/corrado was much more lower and sleeker--much more of a sports/GT car.

Today they are way too similiar in styling and the new scirocco has none of the styling cues from the past scirocco/corrados.

If you parked the the new scirocco in a parking lot and asked various people what the car was i will almost guarantee it that none of them would say its the "new" scirocco.

either way I really want one of those, as long as I can shave the emblem on the hood.

I Club Grim Water

You have to look at it from the huge Euro market, not from the (currently small for VW) US market.

The GTI is the sportier version of Europe's number one family car, and happens to also be available with a 2-door option. That doesn't make it a coupe.

The Scirocco is from the ground up a sporty coupe, with different track and stance, and fewer "family car" compromises necessary when saving weight. The Euro market is simply big enough to easily allow for both. The Scirocco may also get the highly desired 270 or so hp turbo-four AWD combination.

VW EV, plug-in Hybrid, and/or 1.4-2.0 VVT&VVL T/dual-charged FSI engines for the US would be useful...

Kill the GTI, bring the Scirocco.

Neither do most of us. It used to be that the Scirocco (and even the Corrado, which was originally to be called Scirocco, but was renamed because it was in a higher price range) was sleeker, with a lower roofline and a fastback.

Mk1 GTI:

Mk1 Scirocco:

See the difference?

The Mk2 Scirocco shared the same type of sleek low roofline and fastback hatch:

^^My car

The Corrado followed suit:

As you can tell from the picture at the top of the page, the hatch on the new "Scirocco" is much more upright to provide more headroom for rear seat passengers. The result is a GTI with a lower roofline. It's partway to being a Scirocco, but not quite there.

True, but if you parked an old Scirocco in that same parking lot, most people would have no clue what it is either.