Reply With QuoteThis should be fun to watch!
http://www.nascar.com/news/110507/ts...len/index.html
WATKINS GLEN, N.Y. -- Two-time Cup Series champion Tony Stewart and 2008 Formula 1 champ Lewis Hamilton are swapping race cars at Watkins Glen International.
The Mobil 1 Car Swap will take place June 14 at the famed road course in the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York. Hamilton will take laps in Stewart's No. 14 Chevrolet and Stewart will climb into the cockpit of team Vodafone's McLaren Mercedes MP4-23.
"Tony and I will have some fun with the swap and make sure we put on a good show," Hamilton said of what will be his first foray in a stock car. "It's a racer's circuit and will give us both the chance to understand the differences between the two styles of racing at this legendary track."
Each will drive the long course at The Glen, which is 3.4 miles through 11 turns. NASCAR uses the 2.4-mile short course, which doesn't include the famed Boot section, but Stewart, who has a record five Cup victories at Watkins Glen, has driven it in a Grand-Am Rolex Sports Car Series race.
"When you've been around competitive racing for as long as I have, you really look forward to new experiences, and this car swap with Lewis is definitely one of those opportunities," said Stewart, who also won an IndyCar Series title. "I already have quite a bit of respect for what Lewis and the F1 drivers and teams do, so to experience laps in the cockpit of an F1 car and see what Lewis can do in the Cup car is something I am really excited about."
The Glen became world-renowned by hosting the United States Grand Prix from 1961-1980 and has been home to Cup Series races since 1986. This season marks the 50th anniversary of The Glen's inaugural F1 race.
Details of how many laps Stewart and Hamilton will make are still being worked out. They'll follow the lead of Jeff Gordon and Juan Montoya, who swapped rides at Indianapolis in 2003 when Montoya was driving in F1.
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Originally Posted by Chris Stack
This should be fun to watch!
Is Stewart going to be able to get his fat @ss in a F1 car?
this thread, or the actual race??
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Both.
Might actually have to watch. Might end the debate once and for all (I still think F1 is much tougher).
my $$ is on LH..
I honestly don't know if Stewart can drive an F1 car.
Jeff Gordon and I believe Juan Pablo Montoya did the years ago, now he's racing stock cars. We'll see where this leads for the both of them... Either way I approve!!
Nascar v. F1?Might end the debate once and for all...
What debate?
Sounds brilliant, looking forward to it. I hope they lay down their own times in their own cars before they swap to make it even more interesting
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exactly...two completely different forms of professional automobile racing.
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From a fan's standpoint, NASCAR is definitely better to watch. Much more competition, the race isn't between 3 drivers.
As for skill required to drive at the limit, I would say F1 requires more skill.
You're not watching the same nascar as me. As far as im concerned, its the same 3 or 4 drivers winning EVERY race and EVERY championship.
By the way, I dont think this is anything to get excited about. Tony has raced in TONS of different types of vehicles and competed in different associations, so it wont be a problem for him. Not sure about Lewis though.
You mean... Like last night's race... won by a driver with basically a single sponsor and very little monetary backing???
ARRRRGH! I'd love to see this but I won't be able to make it to WGI to see this in person.
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And you aren't watching the same NASCAR as the rest of of the world. How many lead changes are there in a typical F1 race and how many distinct different leaders? Now compare that to a typical NASCAR cup race. And there has been 8 different winners in the past 10 NASCAR cup races.
As for 2011 F1, 3 out of 4 races have been won by the same guy. Furthermore for 2010 F1, there were only 5 distinct winners for all 19 races.
I will say it again, watching F1 is boring. There is almost no competition, the races have practically predetermined finishing orders unless something catastrophic happens. This isn't the case in NASCAR.
The only real downfall with NASCAR is the points system - the chase setup is one of the worst things to ever happen to the cup series.
I think this is going to be great. I loved the "Trading Paint" swap between Gordon and Montoya back in 2003.
I loved how genuinely excited they were when they got out of each others cars. I remember Gordon just being **cking fascinated with the brakes on the Williams, and Montoya being all giddy about trying to control that clumsy beast of a cup car.
I was also surprised with the results. I didn't expect Gordon to be within a few seconds of Montoya. It shows how talented these guys are.
I'm also excited to see an F1 car at the Glen again.
I can't wait.
How dare you make rational statements about motorsports! But F1 costs more, and the drivers have funny names and funny flags! And it's European, so it must be better than America...
did i forget anything else?
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can we put them both in rally cars instead?
also, I think they are going to have to find a new sponsor for Gordon's F1 debut. Vasoline. To get in the car.
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Stewart can drive anything. His talents amaze me. I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do with the F1 car.
Hell no.
I'll give you that.
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Sooooo much more interesting than F1
Me too, I just hope he has enough time to figure it out so he can get the most out of it. Not that he's an idiot/not capable, it's just that there is soooooo much going on in a modern F1 cockpit. I've read that out of the two, the cup car is more forgiving and doesn't bite like a single seater will.
Neither driver will have the car sorted to their style, and I think this is the best part. "Here you go boys, good luck."
There's more to enjoying the race than the shape of the track.Sooooo much more interesting than F1
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I was at Darlington saturday night, and I can tell you this: unlike road racing, when at a NASCAR event live, you get to see every battle, all the way around the track, every lap. It's massively exciting and fun. And loud as f**k. The racing is close, and at a track like Darlington, requires a LOT of skill to keep from crashing. A couple guys got the "Darlington Stripe" and managed not to wad up their cars. Kasey Kahne hit the wall hard and still retained the lead when battling with Carl Edwards early in the race. The racing is tight and anyone can win, as was proven at Darlington (though I missed out on winning $100 in our pool, as I had Carl Edwards to win, who was leading much of the last third of the race until 2 laps from the end, when Jeff Burton's engine blew up causing a 2 lap sprint to the finish on the green-white restart).
I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.
I guess I am partial to turning in both directions...I am funny like that
My only input is I almost witness a fight in our hotel room Saturday night as harch words became fists over the topic of Nascar vs Gaga at 9 PM.
Then they should turn around after completing half of the laps and head the other direction, that way they turn both directions and there would be more excitement.
Dude is gonna have to give up a few things to make it happen.
I can't believe this hasn't been posted yet.
Nascar is about as exciting as golf for me. Yes, it takes some serious brass ones to drive a tube chassis car at 200mph wheel to wheel. No, it does not take as much skill as a course that requires turning and braking. Don't kid yourself that it does. Hamilton is a far better driver than anyone in the Nascar grid.
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then youre not in it for the racing. I can dig that. And NASCAR racers do turn both directions on a number of tracks over the years.
BTW, recognize this ancient NASCAR track in Europe?
I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.
F1 is a computer with a driver installed. I'm of the opinion that F1 only USES drivers in order to cause crashes, as the cars are so scienced out that they could make it around the track on theri own easier, with a lot less effort on the part of the team. Seriusly, the drivers are only trying to match the times set in the simulator.I can't believe this hasn't been posted yet.
Nascar is about as exciting as golf for me. Yes, it takes some serious brass ones to drive a tube chassis car at 200mph wheel to wheel. No, it does not take as much skill as a course that requires turning and braking. Don't kid yourself that it does. Hamilton is a far better driver than anyone in the Nascar grid.
If they were so good, they they woudn't crash so much on even the first lap. And, they are usually much more primadonnas than NASCAR drivers (though lately, with the influx of road racers in NASCAR, we're seeing a lot more primadonna behavior from them as well...)
I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.
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