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    Illegal to tamper with license plate?

    Question for a friend. His new california standard license plate has FLC between the numbers.

    He wants to write a small "i" on a piece of paper and tape it between LC to read FLIC (I have no idea why).

    His question is, is it illegal to do this, even though it will not cover any of the other letters?


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    Re: Illegal to tamper with license plate? (iLoveMyIS)

    yes.
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    Re: Illegal to tamper with license plate? (renegadeofpunk03)

    Quote, originally posted by renegadeofpunk03 »
    yes.

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    Re: Illegal to tamper with license plate? (iLoveMyIS)

    The most common Utah plate is the one that says "Ski Utah!" on the top and has a little guy skiing. My friend got a ticket for putting a sticker over it that has a snowboarder and says "Board Utah!"

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    it's technically "not ours" it belongs to the government (same with money, it's illegal to deface that). So yes, tampering with it in anyway is illegal.
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    Re: Illegal to tamper with license plate? (dhvag)

    edit: nvm

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    Re: Illegal to tamper with license plate? (dhvag)

    Is this a serious question?

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    Yes it is illegal, but who cares tell him to do it anyway. A cop will just tell you to take it off

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    Re: Illegal to tamper with license plate? (iLoveMyIS)

    Tell your friend that some things should be learned by experience.

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    Re: (cal40)

    will placing it only on the front license plate make it less noticeable by the cops?


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    Re: (GiacGtiAgain)

    Quote, originally posted by GiacGtiAgain »

    are you serious? are you asking if putting it on only one plate instead of two will be less noticeable? yes, yes it will. in fact it will be 50 percent less noticeable. would it be more noticeable if you wore just women's panties or if you threw on a bra too? you suck.


    Modified by GiacGtiAgain at 4:04 PM 11-18-2007

    No, I was asking if putting it in the front rather than the back would make it less noticeable. Don't be stupid with me.
    I'm just trying to get some advice for a friend here.


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    Re: (GiacGtiAgain)

    Quote, originally posted by GiacGtiAgain »
    are you asking if putting it on only one plate instead of two will be less noticeable? yes, yes it will. in fact it will be 50 percent less noticeable.

    Ow! Stop with this logic! It's making my brain hurt!


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    Ontario, Yours to Discover.

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    Re: (independent77)

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    Ontario, Yours to Discover.

    ...Can be changed to
    Ours to Disco!


    lol

    What is this new California plate?


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    Re: (-Khaos-)

    Quote, originally posted by -Khaos- »
    it's technically "not ours" it belongs to the government (same with money, it's illegal to deface that). So yes, tampering with it in anyway is illegal.

    technically, tampering or concealing in any way (i.e. plastic cover, or even any sort of frame around the plate) is considered an act of terrorism under the Patriot Act a friend of mine was lectured one night b/c he had a clear cover on his rear plate and no front plate at all, he attached his front plate (which was in the trunk) and removed the plastic cover after getting the whole rundown by the officer. he didn't get any tickets but now has this amusing story to tell


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    Re: (chucchinchilla)

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    lol

    What is this new California plate?


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    Re: (independent77)

    Tons of people in FL place round stickers over the orange in the middle of the plate from what I've seen, but I've never heard of people being pulled over or ticketed for it.

    If its not noticeable I doubt you'd be likely to be pulled over just for that, however if you're pulled over for an unrelated reason and its noticed that's just another thing for them to bust you on. Or, if a cop just wants to find a reason to harass you when you're not otherwise driving illegally he now has one.

    I wouldn't do it just because I don't like to give the police a reason to pull me over in the first place. I'd rather just avoid the situation altogether.


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    Re: (Noisyninja)

    I think you might get away with something small, ie: if you get a plate that says 'ebaycom' and you insert a little blue dot to read 'ebay.com', I don't think anyone will mind. Anything other than that, I doubt it.

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    If he adds a digit to a license plate, he's gonna get in big trouble.
    That a lot more than a clear cover or even a "period."
    Oh and people do get tickets for clear covers where they are illegal (MN for one).
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    Register your vehicles in a state that you never plan to travel through and you can avoid all these troubles - your home state can't get you for non-moving violations and the state where the vehicle is registered will never see your car to enforce their own rules. Tints, lowering, emissions, taxes, etc. The government can't force you to be a resident of one particular state. Sure, states may have laws that say if you reside somewhere for more than X number of days you are now considered a resident of that state but all you have to be able to back up your claims with enough paperwork so that it appears legit if anyone questions you. For instance, get a PO Box someplace out of state and have your utility bills sent there. If you pay them online you don't even have to deal with mail forwarding services. Also, if you move a lot it can be easier to maintain one "fixed" address for things like this. You can choose whichever state is most advantageous.

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    Re: (iLoveMyIS)

    Quote, originally posted by GiacGtiAgain »
    are you serious? are you asking if putting it on only one plate instead of two will be less noticeable? yes, yes it will. in fact it will be 50 percent less noticeable. would it be more noticeable if you wore just women's panties or if you threw on a bra too? you suck.


    This comment was awesome.



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    Re: (LI_HXC_VR6)

    Quote, originally posted by LI_HXC_VR6 »

    technically, tampering or concealing in any way (i.e. plastic cover, or even any sort of frame around the plate) is considered an act of terrorism under the Patriot Act

    Source?

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    Re: (Art Vandelay)

    Quote, originally posted by Art Vandelay »

    Source?

    Read the rest of the post that was according to the officer who pulled my friend and his wife over one night... I think the officer may have been embellishing it a bit (maybe he was bored?), but then again in this day and age with our current gov't it doesn't surprise me much.


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    Re: (freedomgli)

    Quote, originally posted by freedomgli »
    Register your vehicles in a state that you never plan to travel through and you can avoid all these troubles - your home state can't get you for non-moving violations and the state where the vehicle is registered will never see your car to enforce their own rules. Tints, lowering, emissions, taxes, etc. The government can't force you to be a resident of one particular state. Sure, states may have laws that say if you reside somewhere for more than X number of days you are now considered a resident of that state but all you have to be able to back up your claims with enough paperwork so that it appears legit if anyone questions you. For instance, get a PO Box someplace out of state and have your utility bills sent there. If you pay them online you don't even have to deal with mail forwarding services. Also, if you move a lot it can be easier to maintain one "fixed" address for things like this. You can choose whichever state is most advantageous.

    This is not always true.
    For example, in MN they can cite you for having studded tires for example, as long as the car has been in the state for 90 days. (Yes, much, much harder to prove, but not impossible).
    Also, if you live somewhere like CA who aggressivly enforce this (its tax evasion), you get in big giant trouble if caught.
    Also, if you alter an out-of-state license plate, I promise you can be punished for this in other states.
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    Quote, originally posted by LI_HXC_VR6 »

    Read the rest of the post that was according to the officer who pulled my friend and his wife over one night... I think the officer may have been embellishing it a bit (maybe he was bored?), but then again in this day and age with our current gov't it doesn't surprise me much.

    I generally don't present hearsay from traffic cops as fact, so I figured you had actually looked it up...

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    Re: (Art Vandelay)

    Quote, originally posted by Art Vandelay »

    I generally don't present hearsay from traffic cops as fact, so I figured you had actually looked it up...

    I generally assume people are intelligent enough to take what is said on the internet at face value... thanks for proving me wrong.

    As far as The Patriot Act goes though... it can basically be used against you in any which way they (gov't, police, etc) see fit, so I would definitely see how something such as obstructing/tampering with a government issued vehicle identification device can fall under that umbrella (especially in an area such as mine/my friend's just a few miles away from NYC where security is definitely a bigger factor than some small town in the middle of the country somewhere).

    So to conclude... don't mess around with your license plates and you'll be fine


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    Re: Illegal to tamper with license plate? (iLoveMyIS)

    A friend huh?Well here is my answer to you...ahem..I mean your friend. Are you serious? Of course it's illegal! You dipstick!


    Modified by scousa at 7:06 AM 11-21-2007

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    Quote, originally posted by freedomgli »
    Register your vehicles in a state that you never plan to travel through and you can avoid all these troubles - your home state can't get you for non-moving violations and the state where the vehicle is registered will never see your car to enforce their own rules. Tints, lowering, emissions, taxes, etc. The government can't force you to be a resident of one particular state. Sure, states may have laws that say if you reside somewhere for more than X number of days you are now considered a resident of that state but all you have to be able to back up your claims with enough paperwork so that it appears legit if anyone questions you. For instance, get a PO Box someplace out of state and have your utility bills sent there. If you pay them online you don't even have to deal with mail forwarding services. Also, if you move a lot it can be easier to maintain one "fixed" address for things like this. You can choose whichever state is most advantageous.

    a lot of people do that in utah, seeing as how idaho will let you drive a wrecked piece of crap with black windows and call it good, when utah would fail it in 2 seconds, and they've tried to create laws saying you better be a real resident, but i haven't seen it make a big difference, considering all the bigger towns are college towns and have a ton of out of staters...


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    Quote, originally posted by LI_HXC_VR6 »

    I generally assume people are intelligent enough to take what is said on the internet at face value... thanks for proving me wrong.

    I generally assume people post garbage third-hand information to the Internet and present it as fact, so thanks for proving me right.

    Quote, originally posted by LI_HXC_VR6 »
    technically, tampering or concealing in any way (i.e. plastic cover, or even any sort of frame around the plate) is considered an act of terrorism under the Patriot Act

    Oh...really...

    Terrorist!!!

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    My dad trimmed 1/2" off all the way around so it would fit into an undersized plater holder on his car...is that illegal?...I think I know the answer.

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    Re: (AdrockMK2)

    Do you have to pay for your plates in the states? And by pay I don't mean the right to use them but the actual procurement of the plate itself...

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    Re: (Ducimus)

    What about http://www.photoblocker.com ???

    I accidentally got some of the reflective spray on my license plate.


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    For the OP, check the CA vehicle code.

    http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03/vc4463.htm

    For the comments about plate frames, here is the code concerning the subject.

    http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03/vc5201.htm

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